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jay ([personal profile] jay) wrote2004-01-04 10:49 am

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Yay! We got something down in one piece! Into Gusev, no less... Nathalie is probably overjoyed, as Gusev (and paleolakebeds) was her idea and her banner since the late 90s.

(bounce)

[identity profile] joedecker.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 10:57 am (UTC)(link)
Rock on!

[identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
(high-five)

[identity profile] vokzal.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 11:24 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, was wondering who/what you knew about all that... (See, I trolled for you in my lj...)

[identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
Shameless! (giggle)

I answered you there ;-). Nathalie Cabrol was the original champion of going to Gusev Crater -- it was "her" site. And colleagues on either side of me at work have done mission software for the MER rovers...

ah

[identity profile] vokzal.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
but will you answer [livejournal.com profile] srd's question too?

Re: ah

[identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw a deleted comment... was that it?

Re: ah

[identity profile] vokzal.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
no, you have to follow the link to his journal!

[identity profile] trinker.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 12:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, do you know anyone who's got time in the next few months to do a "why Mars missions fail/have failed" talk?

[identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
They'd have to be in SoCal, right? Otherwise, I could think of several, depending on the context (myself included).

[identity profile] trinker.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Willing to travel to SoCal. And since we're a little volunteer organization, we can't pay anything. (Not asking for much, eh?)

[identity profile] mactavish.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 11:43 am (UTC)(link)
I totally thought of you last night as I watched the live landing coverage. :)

[identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks... I missed it (on the way home) but had my fingers crossed. I'll feel better when JPL lets us put on a precision landing system (something that does real-time image analysis to steer the lander away from boulders and ditches, I worked on one a couple of years ago). Landing blind... it's a crapshoot, and forces us towards flat-and-featureless "mattress" landing sites (away from the most scientifically interesting spots).

[identity profile] oceansedge.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
A question came up this morning in a friend's journal regarding power sources.... but ya know I couldn't find a good reference with an answer (I'm sure it's got more to it than protestors ... but then again maybe not).
http://www.livejournal.com/users/kelloggs2066/157707.html

And what happened to the European one they were waiting to hear from on Christmas Day? Did they ever hear anything or is it given up for lost?

[identity profile] vokzal.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
There's still hope. :>
It switches into a different signaling mode soon or something, apparently.

[identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Your friend is correct -- RTGs were widely used before the anti-nuclear protests of the late 70s/early 80s. They are still IMO the best way to power deep space and surface missions... solar radiation falls off with distance, and there's the surface weather and dust issues. RTGs are built very robustly and have survived rocket failures (being recovered from the ocean floor, bent but intact).

[identity profile] kelloggs2066.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
As the friend in question,

Thanks! :D

Scott

[identity profile] level-head.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
And as the friend of the friend of your friend, greetings and good evening. I too have an abiding interest in space development, but my involvement so far has been limited to the business side of GEO commercial satellites. I have been a good customer of commercial space, at least. ];-)

You come with high referencs, sir, and I am pleased to make your acquaintance, however distantly.

===|==============/ Level Head

[identity profile] trinker.livejournal.com 2004-01-05 09:48 am (UTC)(link)
One of the other missions is cooperating in an attempt to locate and establish communications with Beagle. No word yet, but seems like people are hoping hard.

You might want to check out http://www.spaceflightnow.com for updates.

[identity profile] hopeforyou.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 12:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Yay!!!!!

[identity profile] elorie.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
woohoo!

wish y'all had had a chance to come by for my birthday...maybe next time....

[identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too! Ulp... I hadn't thought we were invited to your party, although you'd mentioned it in passing over lunch. Rats.

Happy (belated) birthday, too!

[identity profile] purpletigron.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
It's good. Just wishin' that Beagle 2 would check in, now...

[identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com 2004-01-04 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
(crossed fingers) that has been nerve-wracking... our German colleagues have a subsurface probe on board, and we were counting on having their results as input to our own designs. And it is such a long, grinding effort to get a spacecraft designed, built, and launched... one hopes not in vain.