jay: (flowers)
[personal profile] jay
I just talked to K, the rector of our parish... because of "lifestyle issues", specifically, I will not be allowed to be a vestry candidate, or a candidate for anything else that represents the parish. If I insist on running for any office, he will remove my eligibility by writing a disciplinary letter to the diocese, thus making me a member-not-in-good-standing. Poly-sensitivity outweighs any gain that the organization might get from my talents and skills. K justified having existing gay vestry members, but not poly, as, "people are of several minds on homosexuality within the church, but everyone agrees that monogamy is the biblical standard."

If I don't force the issue, I will continue to be allowed to participate as a member... allowed communion, but essentially nothing further. [profile] patgreene has asked me to not force their hand, if only to not make things harder on her and the kids. So I will probably retreat back to my corner...

Date: 2004-01-22 10:15 pm (UTC)
geekchick: (cranky)
From: [personal profile] geekchick
everyone agrees that monogamy is the biblical standard

Who's this "everyone"?

I'm sorry you guys are having to deal with this. =(

Date: 2004-01-22 10:18 pm (UTC)
kiya: (bangles)
From: [personal profile] kiya
Who's this "everyone"?

The ones who don't read the OT, I suspect.

I'm sorry you guys are having to deal with this. =(

Metoo. Ugh.

Date: 2004-01-22 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sebab.livejournal.com
I was about to point this out too.

sorry to hear this, Brian.

Date: 2004-01-24 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
(nods) After all, polygamy was still extant in Jewish communities until medieval times, and ended then not because the Torah said it was unlawful, but as a means to stand out less and minimize pogroms by the surrounding Christians...

Date: 2004-01-22 11:12 pm (UTC)
geekchick: (Default)
From: [personal profile] geekchick
The ones who don't read the OT, I suspect.

*nod* When I read that justification, my first reaction was "I suppose that means the Old Testament isn't part of the Bible then?".

Ugh.

Indeed. Ugh.

Date: 2004-01-24 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
Thanks. I'm annoyed in part because I expected better of this parish community... they might not agree with my ethical stands, but that they'd agree to disagree -- rather than effectively tell me to be quiet and re-closet myself.

Date: 2004-01-24 09:10 pm (UTC)
kiya: (snug)
From: [personal profile] kiya
*nods* I always find it hard to deal with people being that much less than I thought they were. (And I find closeting damnably hard and soul-breaking, as I'm sure you've picked up over the years.)

Blergh. I hope you can find a way of not getting too badly hurt by these folks.

Date: 2004-01-23 02:58 am (UTC)
brooksmoses: (Default)
From: [personal profile] brooksmoses
Yeah. I was wondering why exactly Brian doesn't count as part of everyone, aside from all the OT issues....

Date: 2004-01-24 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
Heh. Here, "everyone" functionally means "other clergy and important parishioners who agree with me"...

Date: 2004-01-24 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
It was going to happen at some point... thanks.

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