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I often dread weekends... this one perhaps a bit more than usual. Today... yes/no decision on funding the Arctic field season at 11am. Then couples-counselling tonight. I wish I'd lined up lunch today, but have been too preoccupied to plan ahead. Tomorrow night... no plans. Some slightly-stressful socializing with the kids in the afternoon. Should have planned ahead, again. Sunday... Father's Day... no plans (sound familiar? heh) other than I need to confront the issues around my father's illness again and give him a call.

Why do other people look forward to weekends? For me, work is generally more satisfying and less stressful... still, three days and it will be over, thankfully.

Date: 2004-06-18 04:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] geekchick
Why do other people look forward to weekends?

Because I don't have to get out of bed at 8 AM and trek 20+ miles to the office, and I don't have to sit in on one of the millions of conference calls. It's my chance to get done all the stuff I can't get done during the week because I just don't have time. And because I have a couple of days with nothing necessarily planned.

Date: 2004-06-18 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hang in there!

Feel free to come my way and visit!

Z

Date: 2004-06-18 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinker.livejournal.com
The last time I dreaded weekends was when I was a kid and hated being at home, vastly preferring school.

Now, weekends are a time to spend with loved ones, and to do personal projects that can't be done during the work week.

Date: 2004-06-18 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com
I look forward to weekends only because then there's a CHOICE about what I do - home or work. I liiiiike choices. Also, after a weekend I often have clean clothing. :-) That's about it.

Date: 2004-06-18 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kai-ta-loipa.livejournal.com
I hear you on that... weekends give just enough free time to let me dwell on how much I should be doing...

weekends.

Date: 2004-06-18 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] p3aches.livejournal.com
Brian, Im not free for lunch but i am free for a late afternoon coffee. give me a call and lets see what we can arrange. as to the weekend.I sugesst you find away to just relax. read a book, go to a movie, do things you enjoy doing. I look forward to weekends for the above suggested reasons. My favorite one is having breakfast with friends. or taking a walk on the beach. Hugs T

Date: 2004-06-18 04:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] therealjae.livejournal.com
Weekdays -- even in my job -- are someone else's time. Weekends are MY time.

If it doesn't feel that way for you, you might think about making some changes. I bet it would make you a happier person!

-J

Date: 2004-06-18 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frankenboob.livejournal.com
I'm sorry to hear about your father. His health must be taking quite a toll on you as well. Hopefully the counseling can help you with that? I know it helped me with issues surrounding my father, his illness(es), and his death. I'm actually thinking about going to counseling again. Are you seeing the same person for your private counseling as you are for couples?

As for weekends, it is time to spend with my family. Also time to get some stuff done (generally around the house) that didn't get accomplished during the week. It's a time to wake up late & (at least have the option to) make blueberry pancakes with the kids. It's a time to relax & read a book. Go on a hike/bike ride. Etc. I thoroughly look forward to spending time with D on the weekend... and if I read in his journal that he was dreading being home & preferred being either at work or out of town, I'd be crushed. I'm sorry you're feeling bad, but you are not alone in your life.

Date: 2004-06-18 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runeshower.livejournal.com
What a coincidence, I called you about having lunch together today. I hope you see one or the other of my messages before it's too late!

Date: 2004-06-18 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dawnd.livejournal.com
Can you and Pat go out for dinner and a movie on Saturday night? I think you could use some destress time, and time to focus elsewhere. And ask her to get the kids to do SOMETHING for you on Father's day, even if it's just making breakfast or something silly like that. You need to feel a bit more appreciated that I hear you've been feeling lately.

Date: 2004-06-18 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] griffen.livejournal.com
I don't think your objection is to weekends so much as it is to unstructured time with no plans.

Am I right about that?

Date: 2004-06-18 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frankenboob.livejournal.com
Sorry things are stressful for you. I hope things smooth themselves out soon.

Date: 2004-06-18 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hopeforyou.livejournal.com
If you can make it this far north, I'm available for a light lunch and some chai or something. I'm actually working from home today, and catching up. I'd be careful about breathing in too deeply around here, though... everyone seems to be catching the stomach virus I've had.

Date: 2004-06-18 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hopeforyou.livejournal.com
I've dreaded some weekends myself. Mostly when other people around me had plans and were happy with them, while I was having mood swings or locked up and depressed.

Weekends have been times I've traditionally looked forward to having time to myself or with people I care about. Being able to go to the beach for a few hours without having to answer to anyone, and turning the cellphone off. Being able to create art or write personal stories. Hiking. Swimming. Going to picnics and BBQs. I love summer weekends in particular, usually.

I suggest that you find some way to look forward to weekends. Maybe you can take up a hobby or attend some classes -- Spanish, perhaps? Something that would be appealing to you or might come in handy in your personal life and work.

Weekends don't have to suck. At least, not all of them.

Date: 2004-06-18 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] treacle-well.livejournal.com
I'm usually doing something (more errands and chores than social), so I don't see weekends as a relaxing time, or an unusually "fun" time, nor as time to sleep in (I don't particularly like sleeping in).

I do, however, look forward to weekends. I look forward to the change of pace, having more control over my time, the opportunity to do stuff I want to do that's not work, as well as the opportunity to socialize or seek out non-social entertainment. I don't see worktime as "me" time, so having an official "not day job" break (which is what the weekend is to me) gives me more potential "me" time. And, since I don't have many obligations to other people or other things, a great deal of it usually is "me" time. I like that.

Date: 2004-06-18 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nolly.livejournal.com
My weekends have some set structure, including things I look forward too, but they're not set in stone as much. The regular things include:
My Saturday mornings, which generally start with my yoga class, followed by a scone or similar and coffee at a local bakery and a trip to the wonderful used book store nearby.
The role-playing game I'm in runs 2 Saturdays a month; this is one of them.
Sundays are church, morning and evening services.
Once a month or so I have a con-com meeting on Sunday afternoon; that was last weekend.
Things unique to this weekend: taking the mystery kitty to the vet for a chip check and general check-up, a friend's birthday thing, and I'm planning to visit the county fair Sunday afternoon and see how my entry did.

I'll probably call my dad on Saturday because Sunday schedules are hard to coordinate due to time differences.

Date: 2004-06-19 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
True... given commute hassles (which I don't have), boredom and too many constraints... and you seemed to have a fun, laid-back workplace!

Date: 2004-06-19 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
If I knew who you were... ;-)

Date: 2004-06-19 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
The dynamic is not dissimilar, I guess... maybe I should take up more home projects. Resume gardening or homebrewing... find *something* useful to do.

Date: 2004-06-19 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
I like choices, too! But I have lots of flexibility during the week, and sometimes work on weekends.

Date: 2004-06-19 01:41 am (UTC)

Re: weekends.

Date: 2004-06-19 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
If I'm at home, I need to take care of the kids or do something with Pat... I don't have the freedom to just take personal time at home, except after everyone else is asleep and chores are done. That's one reason why I stay up late, often.

Date: 2004-06-19 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
I feel the opposite... weekdays at work are time *I* control and prioritize. While weekends are at the behest of and are controlled by other people and their needs, as well as mandatory household tasks.

Date: 2004-06-19 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
I need to start personal counselling... the couples sessions can only handle a limited amount of personal issues. The issues with my father... I'm having trouble knowing where to start, or whether to express what I feel to him, or try to caretake and not upset him.

And true, I'm not alone... but I don't feel I can go on a hike or sleep late or read, either, unless I *am* alone for some reason. And the kid-noise can be deafening in a small house, with the TV blaring and kids fighting and toys crashing...

Date: 2004-06-19 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
Thanks! I enjoyed lunch.

Date: 2004-06-19 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
Hope you feel better... (hug)

Date: 2004-06-19 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
Thanks. :)

Date: 2004-06-19 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
Use, perhaps, but I don't *need* it. I may go in and work Saturday, just to prove something to myself ;-). And you're sweet for even commenting, considering... thanks. Whatever my feelings are about this weekend (or weekends-in-general) they're my responsibility and mine to address, no one else's... not even Pat and the kids's ;-).

Date: 2004-06-19 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
go to the beach for a few hours without having to answer to anyone

That's much more likely to be possible for me on a Tuesday than a Sunday...

Date: 2004-06-19 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
Nearly all of my socializing... and dates, other than with Pat... are during the week, either mid-day or a few evenings. Weekends are generally a barren wasteland socially, I'm not on many invitation lists. I actually tend to think of weekends as down-time for household maintenance, physical plant and otherwise ;-). And "me" time... occurs late at night, usually, or when I'm on travel somewhere.

Date: 2004-06-19 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
A good mixture IMO... some structure, some ad-lib.

Date: 2004-06-19 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
That's a bit true, but it is much more about the loss of control of my schedule... I feel like I can't make weekend plans in advance because I don't know what Pat and the kids will need from me.

Date: 2004-06-19 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nolly.livejournal.com
How much is need and how much is want? (Honest question, since I'm too far removed to have an opinion about it.) While meeting their needs is important, especially the kids, sometimes, I think, your needs/wants should take priority over their wants. Not always; this is a balance thing, and like all balance things can be tricky.

Date: 2004-06-19 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nolly.livejournal.com
I agree, and I haven't always had it. Don't manage it every weekend even now, but it's something I've worked to create. Some of it has been at the expense of other things -- I tend to let household maintenace and chores slip more than I should because I just don't have time for everything. I'm working on finding better balance there.

Is there a way you can work towards similar balance in your weekends? Set aside a few hours that are consistently your time, like my Saturday mornings are? A time you can choose to use in other ways, but others can't take away from you without an extremely high priority reason?

Date: 2004-06-19 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] griffen.livejournal.com
Ask Pat and the kids first. If they say they won't need you, then make your plans.

Although I think it might benefit you to start having some time where nothing is structured, so you have no "I should be doing X, Y and Z right now". It's often typical of folks like us that we want our lives completely totally absolutely preplanned out to the millisecond so we never have to worry about what we "should" be doing.

Date: 2004-06-20 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
It is hard to say here, as well. When Pat talks to me, especially regarding the kids, the language is usually framed as "needs".

Date: 2004-06-20 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
If I ask, they will want every possible moment from me... the best way to get time for myself IMO is to not ask -- just take it. I don't want lots of rigid plans, either... but general ideas, scenarios, possibilities. Then make something up as I go along, I'm more of a Myers-Briggs "P" than "J". Drives Nancy crazy sometimes because I maintain flexibility as long as possible, rather than committing to a plan.

Date: 2004-06-20 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
I doubt it, but I'll ask... with four people dependent on me at home, fencing time at home is hard.

Date: 2004-06-21 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] griffen.livejournal.com
It's also the best way to get your wife and kids to resent you for taking off without an announcment.

I think you may want to examine that and see if it's functional or not.

Date: 2004-06-21 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
Time for myself is *my* boundary...

Date: 2004-06-21 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] griffen.livejournal.com
Yes, but there are ways to go about it that don't involve upsetting the people you love with it.

There's a difference between saying "I'm taking time for myself this weekend doing X and Y," and simply disappearing.

Date: 2004-06-21 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
(shrug) If I hadn't had a plea for help at work today and tomorrow, yesterday I had reservations for a ticket out of the country. Subsequently cancelled at work yesterday when I realized I was needed here at least Monday and Tuesday or the Arctic field test season would likely be aborted. I wasn't going to tell Pat where I was until I was enroute (and thence unreachable).

Date: 2004-06-21 03:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] geekchick
I wasn't going to tell Pat where I was until I was enroute (and thence unreachable).

I'm not Pat, but if you pulled such a stunt on me the locks would've been changed by the time you got home. Taking time for yourself is a very good thing, and you certainly seem to need to do it right about now. You don't, however, have to be a jerk about it when you do.

Dear, I know you're really stressed out about stuff at home and your father's health issues, but you don't need to take it out on people who care about you and treat them like crap. Asking for help is much more productive than throwing temper tantrums.

Date: 2004-06-21 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
Considering how much pent-up anger I have at Pat, after she's thrown my life into chaos over the past five weeks... she may care for me, but she has funny ways of showing it. As far as I'm concerned, she's working out her own insecurities by trying to impose controls on my behavior, so I find it hard to be... considerate when pushing back on those controls.

And who could I have asked for help, yesterday? Even those near and dear are looking at the mess here and stepping back...

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