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jay ([personal profile] jay) wrote2005-08-26 04:53 pm

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I'm in Newark in one piece, although I put the DIMMs in the wrong order and so my laptop periodically freezes. Hence the Treo...
OTOH, I got bumped up to first, where I'm currently sitting. (grin) However, I didn't get a chance to let Jen know...

[identity profile] bdot.livejournal.com 2005-08-27 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
are you going to be a gentleman and let jen sit there for part of the trip?

[identity profile] karenbynight.livejournal.com 2005-08-27 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
You've got to be kidding, right?

Trading off seats mid-flight is probably frowned upon by the TSA at this point, and is definitely a PITA for your fellow passengers and crew. Plus, a first-class ticket is worth thosands of dollars, for which [livejournal.com profile] brian1789 has spent an awful lot of time on airplanes. It's not like sharing a soda; more like attempting to share an all-expense-paid vacation for one that you won.

Generally a pretty generous person, I certainly wouldn't be sharing any transcontinental first-class upgrade I were to receive -- though my having that option is unlikely, as I'm an occasional tourist who flys on a budget. But I also didn't begrudge it one bit the last time my travel companion got upgraded away from me.

[identity profile] patgreene.livejournal.com 2005-08-27 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
.... for which brian1789 has spent an awful lot of time on airplanes.

You got that right.

[identity profile] patgreene.livejournal.com 2005-08-27 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
On occasion, he has let me have his upgrade, but then I'm married to him. : )

[identity profile] karenbynight.livejournal.com 2005-08-27 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
I might let [livejournal.com profile] princeofwands have an upgrade I received, given that he's 6'2" and I'm short enough to stand under the overhead storage without stooping, short enough that putting my carryon under the seat in front of me doesn't generally stop me from stretching out my legs.

Might.

[identity profile] patgreene.livejournal.com 2005-08-28 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Brian sees me as co-owner of the frequent flyer account (quite frankly, I do too) since I spend so much time as a single parent : ) That said, he's generally generous with me about upgrades.
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[personal profile] geekchick 2005-08-27 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
Trading off seats mid-flight is probably frowned upon by the TSA at this point

On each of the (domestic) flights I was on in the last week, we were told by the crew that we weren't even allowed to use the bathrooms in cabins other than the one we were ticketed in, so I doubt they'd look favorably on the idea of switching out seats mid-flight.

[identity profile] datagoddess.livejournal.com 2005-08-27 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Yay for first class - have a good flight!

[identity profile] cyan-blue.livejournal.com 2005-08-27 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Glad you got to Newark safely! Wave to my skyline for me...

hi hi..new person Nancy here,

[identity profile] iluvdaphne.livejournal.com 2005-08-27 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know exactly what you will be doing in Spain, but I figured setting something important up for NASA. I hope to follow your travel like I did in the Arctic. Safe journey :)

Ooh I wonder if that is wrong with my new desk top computer it keeps freezing up, you can use it for say one program and then bang it freezes, if my hubser put the DIMMS in the wrong order? I am so computer duh, sorry but I sort of know what DIMMS are..I think. I know you always need two of them. :)

[identity profile] p3aches.livejournal.com 2005-08-27 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
Brian, have a safe trip.I am looking forward to hearing all about it when you get back.I will miss you while your gone. heck I miss you while your here. Hugs T

[identity profile] tenacious-snail.livejournal.com 2005-08-27 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
*hugs*

I think you're still over the Atlantic as I am typing. Glad to know you at least have a comfy spot.

[identity profile] tenacious-snail.livejournal.com 2005-08-27 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
note: Les says that trading seats with someone in order to give a better seat to someone because she is female, is not being a gentleman, its being patronizing. And I am delighted that you're not.

[identity profile] deedeebythebay.livejournal.com 2005-08-27 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting that I didn't even consider putting gender into the equation...I considered...."I'll let my friend share this seat with me and I'll take time in their seat so we can both share the fortune."

I confess I get a bit annoyed after awhile that everyone always assumes such a statement is about gender and somehow patronizing.....sometimes its just about generosity and graciousness. Irregardless of my lack of knowledge about the circumstances, of which karenbyknight enlightened me.

But, and I'm using brian1789's journal to say so, I'm glad that you and I are close enough that I can insert that mini rant and I know you won't be offended.

[identity profile] princeofwands.livejournal.com 2005-08-27 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the primary problem here is the overloaded culture context wrapped up in [livejournal.com profile] bot's having used the term "gentleman". Equally a problem, at this point in the thread is I think Les' occasional warring against infered gender assertions from the habit of constantly resisting the assertions that are stated, implied, or assumed as granted.

But yeah - considerate of friend, coworker, traveling companion. Traveler with known health issues and travel problems. Lots of categorizations that don't have anything to do with her being a her.

[identity profile] tenacious-snail.livejournal.com 2005-08-29 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
you're right, Bry. My response was entirely about the notions of "gentlemen" being a gendered-term, and not about being considerate. Most of the thread has addressed the question as to what is, in fact, considerate behavior, and how to balance the "considerate to other passengers" with "considerate to co-worker/friend/travelling companion".

I'm also someone who would rather have a well-rested-Jay than a bigger seat in first class.

first class

[identity profile] twoglass.livejournal.com 2005-08-27 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
There is no question to anyone who really knows you that your are a gentleman through and through. I didn't raise you to be selfish or inconsiderate. And you are not. I think you should be happy you got bumped and try to get some well deserved and needed rest in first class. Try not to use all the time for working.

Love and hugs. Mom

Re: first class

[identity profile] patgreene.livejournal.com 2005-08-30 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
I love the icon.... Can I get a copy of it?

BTW, it was good talking to you earlier today.

Icon

[identity profile] twoglass.livejournal.com 2005-08-30 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I am getting a bit better, aren't I. I really havn't quite finished it yet. But of course I would be glad to give you a print. If you have a favorite of you and Jay , e-mail me a copy and I will try to paint it for you.

I'm flattered that you like it.

Gail