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jay ([personal profile] jay) wrote2005-08-26 04:53 pm

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I'm in Newark in one piece, although I put the DIMMs in the wrong order and so my laptop periodically freezes. Hence the Treo...
OTOH, I got bumped up to first, where I'm currently sitting. (grin) However, I didn't get a chance to let Jen know...

[identity profile] deedeebythebay.livejournal.com 2005-08-27 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting that I didn't even consider putting gender into the equation...I considered...."I'll let my friend share this seat with me and I'll take time in their seat so we can both share the fortune."

I confess I get a bit annoyed after awhile that everyone always assumes such a statement is about gender and somehow patronizing.....sometimes its just about generosity and graciousness. Irregardless of my lack of knowledge about the circumstances, of which karenbyknight enlightened me.

But, and I'm using brian1789's journal to say so, I'm glad that you and I are close enough that I can insert that mini rant and I know you won't be offended.

[identity profile] princeofwands.livejournal.com 2005-08-27 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the primary problem here is the overloaded culture context wrapped up in [livejournal.com profile] bot's having used the term "gentleman". Equally a problem, at this point in the thread is I think Les' occasional warring against infered gender assertions from the habit of constantly resisting the assertions that are stated, implied, or assumed as granted.

But yeah - considerate of friend, coworker, traveling companion. Traveler with known health issues and travel problems. Lots of categorizations that don't have anything to do with her being a her.

[identity profile] tenacious-snail.livejournal.com 2005-08-29 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
you're right, Bry. My response was entirely about the notions of "gentlemen" being a gendered-term, and not about being considerate. Most of the thread has addressed the question as to what is, in fact, considerate behavior, and how to balance the "considerate to other passengers" with "considerate to co-worker/friend/travelling companion".

I'm also someone who would rather have a well-rested-Jay than a bigger seat in first class.