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[personal profile] jay
Given a debate in the hallways at work today with [personal profile] hopeforyou, over someone's celebration this evening ... I just don't see how celebrating the onset of an icky, unpleasant bodily function that causes half the population to be cranky and require chocolate and paper products one out of every four weeks is a rite of passage, other than as an affliction. Might as well design a ritual to celebrate, say, acne as the door to adolescence.

In this culture, IMO the things which most clearly delineate children from adults are gaining independent mobility and finances. So I think that a first paid outside job and gaining a driver's license are the true rites of passage in the US, both usually happening around age 15-16.

Date: 2005-08-06 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenbynight.livejournal.com
Ditto. The word that best describes my menstrual cycle is "nifty". My body does this really interesting thing every month. It probably helps that on average, I'm more likely to get the happiness hormones than the crankiness ones during "PMS".

I also came to this conclusion despite a lack of any real positive messages about menstruation. My mom, being a nurse, was practical about it all; the rest of the universe, especially teenage boys when I was a teenage girl, were really rude. (why are women weird? because they can bleed for seven days without dying...). I'm all for being intentionally and constructively positive about menstruation, because the messages that get commonly passed around about it clearly miss the nifty things about it that many of us feel... as is evidenced by your assessment, Brian.

Date: 2005-08-06 02:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tshuma
Besides, look at all the things you can accomplish WHILE MENSTRUATING. ;)

Seriously, though, I don't get the happiness hormones from it, ever, but I have always felt a sense of mystery about this thing my body does. I can't imagine my own family doing anything ritualistic for me at the time of onset, but I think some acknowledgement would have been wonderful, something rather like the Mexican tradition of throwing a party for one's daughter when she's begun her menses.

Date: 2005-08-06 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brian1789.livejournal.com
(nods) as far as I can tell from advertising, related experiences, and such... all I see are warnings about "shark week" and ads for paper products and deodorant sprays, and LJ postings from women about how debilitatingly painful it all is this month...

Date: 2005-08-07 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenbynight.livejournal.com
Myself, I detest the term "shark week". Not to mean any disrespect to those who use it, who clearly have some serious challenges in dealing with their menstural cycle. But all of the things it implies have nothing to do with me or my menstrual cycle.

Date: 2005-08-07 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simplykimberly.livejournal.com
me too. I don't say anything to folks, although I intend to say something to the young lady in question. I don't find it shark-like at all, and ... yeah, all of what you said :)

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